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If you are in the left lane should you wait for them or move to the right because they are not using the correct lane?
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No one will ever give you a definitive answer.
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The speed limit on a Duel Carriageway is 70mph.
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The car in the middle is slowing, you are just maintaining your speed and assuming they are in a congested lane.
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You should not have been in the middle lane to begin with.
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Undertaking is legal in UK.
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If he thinks I am going too slowly, can a driver coming off the trunk road and in a marked lan, pass me on the inside in order to get to get to the exit before me?
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Even more frustrating I recently drove on a 4 lane section of motorway.
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If a middle lane hogger has a sudden mechanical issue, they may via to the hard shoulder wirhout looking.
You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving.
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More recent years we've caught up with smarter jurisdictions, and when adding a third traffic lane, we start it afresh off to the right (median) with marked dashes.
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Solitary driver in lane 3 doing 55 with cars backed up behind him trying to turn right.
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Its used to reinforce lane discipline on motorway class roads typically.
You are not undertaking you are passing on the inside by maintaining your speed inline with the flow of traffic in your lane.
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Very heavy traffic in lane 4, nose to tail doing 70.
Speed is obviously a relevant factor.
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Can you overtake on the nearside of another vehicle?
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Because there was only 3 cars where i was on a multi lane.
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If you want clarification on the rule on motorway overtaking on left you should read the Introduction to the Highway Code.
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Technically speaking both drivers are committing an offence.
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So in a nutshell it is NOT illegal to undertake on inside irrelevant of speed within the limit.
Was I wrong to drive in lane 1 at 70?
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If lane hogging was treated as an issue then undertaking would virtually disappear.
He wants to know who are you are?
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Remain calm and carry on.
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It is the person changing lanes causing a collision that is at fault here.
YBJ when your exit is not clear, when I entered it was clear, therefore despite stopping or being forced to stop within the yellow box, I had not committed an offence.
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Download 8949 30 2017STUPID and DANGEROUS and increasingly common practice which should be made illegal (tho' they'd probably never be caught, due to lack of funds for policing it).
But nogood being right if youre dead so pass swiftly to minimise the chance of it happening!
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In these circumstances overtaking on the left is permissible although extra caution is needed for an awareness of other vehicles moving to the faster lane on the left.
As I approach the exit, the roundabout is joined by a trunk road at 12 o'clock with an inside lane to the same exit as I am going to.
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It is NOT a motoring offence.
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